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CORRESPONDENCE WITH "KEVIN ROBERTS" (ii)


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This is the correspondence between myself and "Kevin Roberts". All spelling, colour, emphasis and grammar as in the original. [LB] refers to my Little Brother.



Friday 18 June 2004
Martin Foreman to "Kevin Roberts"
Subject: explanation and apology required

Dear Mr Roberts,

Earlier this year I helped my adoptive brother get onto gaydar and hotmail. This was to help him make new friends and perhaps find a long-term partner.  Several people wrote to him, including yourself. Of all the people who wrote, you were the one who appeared most interested and sympathetic. Over the period of a month your letters became increasingly affectionate, you told him you loved him and you suggested that when you came to Thailand in June you would pay him 30,000 baht to accompany you on your business and pleasure trips for a month and help you translate. You also promised him two big surprises, which he thought were going to be a laptop computer and digital camera. You gave him the details of your British Airways flight, arriving in Bangkok on 16th June and said you were staying at the Asia hotel.

[LB] was not sure that this was all real. He thought you might come to Thailand and not like him, or he would not like you. The money was too much for him to believe to be truly real and he continued to look for work during this time. He told you that and you told him that you had a friend called Edward who could help him find a job. Nevertheless, he continued to look for other work, in case something went wrong.

In any case, what was more important to [LB] than the money was the idea that someone was coming from England and wanted to spend time with him. He was excited and very much looked forward to your coming. I prepared a large sign for him, with your name on it, that you would see coming out of the customs hall. He also gave you his phone number and you gave him your Thai mobile number.

He arrived at the airport before your flight landed. He waited for over three hours after your flight landed to see if you had been delayed. He called the telephone number you gave him. It was switched off. Later that evening I called the Asia hotel. There was no record of anyone with your name staying there or booked to stay there. The next morning [LB] called your number. A woman answered who spoke neither English nor Thai.

That morning he received an e-mail from you asking where he was. That was a stupid thing for you to do. It pretended that you were concerned, but the reality is that if you were really concerned you would have telephoned – from Thailand, the UK or wherever (his telephone is never switched off) – and if you were really concerned to see him, in that e-mail you would have repeated details of how he might contact you. The fact that you have not replied to his e-mail telling you how long he waited and how he and I tried to get in touch with you confirms what had already become clear – you had lied to him.

What is not clear is how much you lied. You may still be in the UK, you may never have been in the UK, you may in Thailand or elsewhere. It is not clear whether you decided to deceive him from the beginning or half way through, or when you walked out of the airport and saw him and changed your mind about seeing him. However, the extent of your lies are irrelevant. The bottom line is that you have deliberately lied to someone and seriously hurt his feelings. He is now not only angry with you, but believes that everyone on gaydar is as dishonest as you, and that every Brit is as unprincipled as you are. I can’t say I blame him.

I am not sure why you acted this way. I suspect that you have been badly hurt in the past, but that is no justification for you to hurt someone else in this way. It’s a rather childish reaction that helps neither you nor him. You will not be surprised to know that [LB] wishes no further communication with you. I, however, on his behalf, request and expect both an apology and a suggestion for how you might make amends. And please note that I will not take silence as an answer and insults will be ignored.

I look forward to hearing from you,

Martin Foreman



Saturday 19 June 2004
"Kevin Roberts" to Martin Foreman
Subject: Re: explanation and apology required

Yes I know him, funny he did not suss who I actually am????????    But I have a feeling I know your adoptive brother better than you, he is a thief  'did you know that'???, he also likes to extract money and play on the emotions of older men as well,  I guess you enabled him to do that by teaching him the rudiments of Computers when setting him up with an E mail address,   what for??  Well he thought  MONEY MONEY MONEY.  £, $,  bahts,  any currency actually.

Me disappointed?  well not really, but thank you for telling me that [LB] is, I am delighted.   It was his greed that took him to BKK Airport, and nothing else,  Read those E mails again, he is a prostitute, nothing more, nothing less, Yes I suppose I did play on his emotions, just as he did with his E mails to many other Men,  how do I know,  well how do you think I know?    but then he deletes many of them doesn't he. is that clue enough for you.

I loathe the name Kevin,  that's why I chose it.   I shall doubtless see him again soon.

One wonders if you are actually deluded????   but only you can seriously answer that question.

George  Fred  Mathew  Edward   David  John  Peter   ?????? =   Take your pick.



Saturday 19 June 2004
Martin Foreman to "Kevin Roberts"
Subject: Re: explanation and apology required

I suggest you read my letter again and send back an intelligent reply.  One that is without emotion and with a few facts. 



Saturday 19 June 2004
"Kevin Roberts" to Martin Foreman
Subject: Re: explanation and apology required

You are deluded, shame.



Saturday 19 June 2004
Martin Foreman to "Kevin Roberts"
Subject: Re: explanation and apology required

You don’t seem to understand English. Let me try again.

At this stage I am neither denying nor accepting what you are saying. I am simply asking you to send me some facts rather than vague accusations. You will understand that the evidence I have supports [LB]’s version of events, not yours. However, I am perfectly prepared to listen to an intelligent, reasoned statement of events from you. Will you please provide that? 



Sunday 20 June 2004
"Kevin Roberts" to Martin Foreman
Subject: Re: explanation and apology required

I understand English perfectly well thank you very much,   Why not ask your adoptive brother to tell you what he does when he enters Internets cafes,  similar to a cat that sits around the House all day and turns into the veritable Tiger when let out, he preys on farangs, something you allowed him to do when you set him up with those E mail accounts,  hotmail and gaydar,  I am surprised actually he is not on Face-Pic as well, but then maybe he is. ask him if he has ever received monies from complete strangers.

Do I really have to spell it out  ????

He has disappointed many, now he experiences disappointment himself.




Sunday 20 June 2004
Martin Foreman to "Kevin Roberts"
Subject: Re: explanation and apology required

I am getting bored with this.

You may be able to understand English but you don’t understand the principles of a productive conversation.
Again and again you make allegations but refuse to provide proof. 
You refuse to give me your real name.
You are obsessed by what you think others do and you are obsessed by what you think their motives are. 
You take pleasure from trying to hurt people.

All this convinces me that you are contemptible. [LB] is less generous than I am and came to that opinion more quickly.

We can end this conversation on a pleasant note if you agree to do two things. (a) apologise to [LB], (b) make a certified contribution of 30,000 baht to the Thai Red Cross. If you do so, I will happily retract my comments.

Finally, I would also like you to get psychological help. I am sure that you will laugh off the idea coming from me. I would suggest, however, that you show all the correspondence, with [LB] and with me, to two or three dispassionate observers and see what they think.

In the meantime, to confirm that my judgement is correct, I have been showing this correspondence to a range of people. So far, their conclusions have concurred with mine.



Sunday 20 June 2004
"Kevin Roberts" to Martin Foreman
Subject: Re: explanation and apology required

Funny your getting bored with all this, I thought you were thoroughly enjoying yourself, Am I correct in thinking that you pursued a career in Comedy?

In [LB]s case I know exactly what he does, as for me being obsessed by his actions please me believe me when I say that is over exaggerated, I am just delighted as I have said before that he was left 'disappointed' exactly the same effect he induced in others, TOUCHÉ

Another thing you will possibly not believe is that I already give money to certain Charities in Thailand, in fact I am rather well known in Chiyaphum for certain projects that I finance, [LB] should now perhaps concentrate on another career, one that does not involve prostitution, I guess your showing his E mails has blown his cover in anycase.

I can however sympathise with you, it would appear that you have a genuine concern for the boy. What also concerns me is that you apparently condone him meeting complete strangers at Airports its apparent you knew about a 1000 payment per day for his companionship, you even admit to assisting him with the Kevin Roberts Card, some might accuse you of being his PIMP.

I should also thank you for emphasising [LB]s annoyance, that was my intention throughout Kevin's correspondence with him, obviously I had no idea of your existence but to read what you have said is the best confirmation I could have hoped for.



Monday 21 June 2004
"Kevin Roberts" to Martin Foreman
Subject: cat got your tongue?

Cat got your tongue Martin????

Have no fear, your self delusion with regard to your adoptive brother will reveal itself one of these days be assured.

One question you might like to ask [LB],  has he received any envelopes with money contained inside from a European Country. ONE WITH A WELL KNOWN SUNNY CLIMATE.

Of course you might be bored with the subject now, who could blame you, certainly not I.




Tuesday 29 June 2004
"Kevin Roberts" to Martin Foreman
Subject: Re: explanation and apology required

kept your E mails, the only thing you said of any note was that you were getting bored with this.

Now I can delete

Byeeeeeeeeeeeee



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Earlier in 2004 my adoptive Thai brother met "Kevin Roberts" online. "Roberts" seduced him with words of love and offers of work and money - and then proved to be a fictitious identity of someone who takes pleasure in hurting other people. For the background, click here. For the earlier correspondence between "Roberts" and my brother, click here.